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                    <text>Green &amp; Blue Project
Declan O’Callaghan Interview
I’m seventy five. I’m originally from Cork city.
I suppose when I first heard I was going to the border, first of all I knew it was
coming anyway, I knew it was going to come, I kind of was... at time, felt it was a
step into the unknown, because I hadn’t been there before, and didn’t know what
was involved before I went, in other words, so what happened was, you just got
your... your forms and you were sent, for a month.
I was married. I was leaving my family. I had three children. That was a big change,
‘twas. I went to Blacklion. On the border there, yes. We were looking across at, ‘tis a
twin village between Belcoo in the north, and Blacklion in the south. I suppose it’d
be the ‘80s, would it? I suppose it’d be the ‘70s or the late ‘70s I’d say, yeah. I’m
going now on the age of my children.
It was tense enough, it was yeah, it was, but what we were basically in was a small
little village, there was a large number of gardaí there, you just went up, you got
digs, and you stayed there, you did your work, and that was the most difficult part,
would be because there was no recreation there as such, nothing to do, this was the
worst, the worst part of it really, you know, the fact that you were stuck in this
village, and where I suppose maybe the number of gardaí outnumbered the,[locals]
could well have been the equal, or outnumbered the number of people who lived
there! And... I suppose the feeling in the... in the area that at all costs you kept your
mouth shut, ‘cause you didn’t know where you were, who you were talking to, as
such, you know.
There’s only just a bridge between the two, between them, the bridge was there
between, and the river, between the twin villages, as such, and they were split by
the border, the centre of the bridge was the border.
Well, they, the RUC were generally very nice, and I remember the sergeant in the
RUC across the border at one stage contacting the sergeant on our side, and
offering us to come over and meet them, and... he, well more or less what he was
actually told was, he’d be better off not to, because of the security situation, you
didn’t know who was watching, or you didn’t know what the situation was, and we
felt it wouldn’t be safe for us to come across, as such, you know. Now, we’d one
experience with them... across from the border at one stage, I remember, and I
think there was three of us in the car, went across the border, and... to Belcoo on
the far side, and we were coming back, there was nothing on the bridge when we
were going, we were coming back, there was a giant RUC... checkpoint on the

�bridge when we were coming back, and they stopped us, and it was one of the
reserves that stopped us, and I remember the driver saying to him, he’s saying,
asking the driver who he was, we told him, where we were coming from et cetera,
and he then asked us to open the boot, which the driver did, he was one of the
gardaí who was actually stationed there at the time, and he opened the boot, and he
looked into the boot and then we closed the boot and got back into the car, and...
the driver said to him, ‘is that okay?’ and he said that he wasn’t satisfied... so he
said, ‘if you’re not satisfied, what I can do for you?’ so at that stage, there was an
RUC sergeant on the bridge, and he came over and he said, ‘what’s the problem?’
and the driver said to him, ‘well, he has asked me to show him the boot, I’ve done
that, and I’ve done as he requested’ he said, ‘and he says he’s still not satisfied, and
I’m just asking him to know what I can do for him’. So the sergeant, the RUC
sergeant said to him, ‘well what can he do for you? What’s the problem?’ and he
was more or less, what I call humming and hawing about it, and the sergeant said
to him, ‘get back on the bridge’ he told us to go ahead. But it brought home to me
like that, for example if the RUC hadn’t been there with the... it could have been a
difficult enough situation, you know, it could have been difficult kind of situation,
‘cause the first experience I had of the... the reserves, you know as such... it was a
hostile experience.
‘Twas the UDR, yeah and ‘twas a hostile experience for us, they were very, he was
very hostile, and aggressive and wasn’t a bit you know, wasn’t a bit nice, so we just
went back over and drove home, ‘twas one experience I had with them, and it
always stayed with me like that, you know, I just felt like that, you know if people...
we’ll say, if you were held up at night-time, now somewhere by these, by the UDR
and you met these type of people, you know, they could make it really rough for
you, they could really, you know?
The RUC station across the way was all sandbagged, as such, and behind us in...
Blacklion was a big high hill, you know, and that was always the worry, because you
know, in case there’d be... a crossfire between the, you know that they were
attacked, that they would attack the RUC station from the southern side, let’s put it
that way, and the checkpoints, they were all sandbagged, like...
We were, well we were to that extent, you know we were to that extent, there was
always a certain degree of, of... extra care that let’s put it that way, you know? And,
you did what you were supposed to, you didn’t, you didn’t, you didn’t venture
beyond that, you know, didn’t venture beyond that.
It was, it was, it stood out, well you get used to that up to a certain extent, but then
there was a, there was, every other... garda was stationed there had have had a
southern accent often, yeah... as such, you know, most of them had a southern
accent, so and I suppose they were quite used to it there at that time, like you

�know, ‘cause there was a regular turnover obviously of members going and coming,
you know?

The other experience of the RUC, of the British forces another time, where we went,
we went into... into the north itself... to... oh let me think of the town now, across
the border, I can’t remember the town, I’ll think of it in a minute, but we went there,
just for the day, and we were coming back, and we were stopped by the Army,
British Army, they had these Land Rovers, you know, across the road like as such,
and we stopped anyway and there, but... I found them to be very nice, once you cooperated, once you did what they asked you, then there was no problem with them
actually, they just said ‘go ahead’, you know, they were okay, the ones we met
anyway were okay, you know?
Oh you would, yeah, you would, you would, you would have to identify yourself like
if they ask you to identify yourself, and they’d check the vehicle, obviously like, you
know et cetera, as anyone would do, and but once, once you answered their
questions, you know, it’s quite straight-forward, they would say, ‘go ahead’, there
wasn’t, didn’t find any problem with them, you know as such.
I was, so happy to get out of it, because it was, it was very confined as I say, you
know, and like when you were finished work,
My colleague took up bingo, did he yeah? Yeah, I wasn’t interested in bingo
unfortunately! Of he was stationed there as such, yes that was the difference like
you see, he was stationed there and as such like that he would be, he would know
the locals and he would get to know them, we lasted just the month, so we didn’t
really come in contact much with people, other than stopping them at checkpoints
as such, you know.
Well, accommodation was bed and breakfast there, in the village, you were, ‘twas
kind of a standard thing like, one left, another came, you know, and ‘twas a
standard thing to get bed and breakfast accommodation there as such, you know?
I had a car going up there, we were okay, you were never, before you went
through, never got any information as to what you were... facing, or nobody like
this, asked you if you had accommodation or anything else, you were just expected
to look after all that yourself, you know?
No briefing about what we were going to, just that you were going to go there like
and that’s it, like, and you went to the station and you just, you just, you were put
on checkpoints, you were shown where to go, that’s what you did.

�Stopping cars coming in, coming from the north and going, coming and going, you
know.
I can never remember any hostility, ‘cause they were used to it, ‘twas an everyday
occurrence for them, so like I mean these checkpoints were manned round the
clock, you know, they were manned the whole time, like so, so they were used to it
like, you know.
That’s all, doing the same thing, yeah except you’d very seldom see the RUC out.
No, we’d never see them except, they were doing a checkpoint on the bridge or
something like that, it’s the only time I ever saw them, and they’d be, they were
always armed of course, they’d have to be. But they would just, they would just
come maybe and be on the bridge for an hour and then gone, you know, they never
had set times, I’d say, yeah they were never, they made sure they weren’t being
predictable, that’s the way I looked at it anyway, you know, which was the proper
thing to do, because you could be set up very easily if you were, if you were going
to be there from two to three every day, you know?
They were very vulnerable, they on that line, they were really, and... you know,
that’s why, that’s why I’d say they were, you’d very seldom see them out, you know,
‘cause they could be, like they could be attacked or anything.
‘Twas only the RUC. I’ve no recollection of the Army ever being there, on that
bridge, ‘twas always the, the one time that as I say now, ‘twas a joint RUC/UDR
patrol.

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Myra McCarthy Interview Transcript
It was tough being the wife of a Guard we had four small children and... there was
four and a half years between the four of them, and the baby was only eight weeks
when he went away... and... no mobile phones, had to wait until he got to the other
end to say he got there safe... and it was tough because... when he got home
then... it would be late, very late in the evening by the time he got home, and we
would try to keep the children up... see their daddy, and then we will be gone,
whatever day or two later, he’ll be gone before they get out of bed in the morning,
and they’ll be looking for their daddy... and... it was, you know, because I’d no
family near me,
We were in Kanturk, North Cork, and... I had no family near me, nobody to call,
nobody to come at all, so... if any adult that I knew in Kanturk, they’d visit me...
some people were very good, and kept in touch and came to, you know, came to
visit me... I’d know now and then, open the door, I’d say ‘oh thank God for an adult
conversation’! because I only had baby talk all day long, and... but... I suppose the
good side of it, and it made it a bit easy for me is the kids were all healthy, you
know, and that... so...
Communication, he’d ring when he’d get up to say he arrived safe, and... that’d be
it, and he might ring then, do you know, during the... maybe... during the week,
there’d be no regular phone calls because... he wouldn’t be near a phone, and you
know everything like that, and... yeah communication was very sparse, yeah.
We had a phone at home, so it would have been that little bit easier, but you’d still
wait for that call, and as I say, when he say he got up safe, and... I remember one
time and that’s a piseog [superstition], and I know it’s, it came from his mother’s
side, robins, robin in the house for a... he left one morning, and the kids obviously
were up, he must have left a bit later or something, and the next thing he came
running in, he said ‘mammy, mammy there is a... a robin in the house’, or there’s a
bird inside... a robin, and I put him out, and I came back in, there was another one
there... and I tell you, I nearly died between that and when he got up to say he’d
arrived safe, and I don’t believe in piseogs, but... I thought this is awful strange, you
know?
We would have had a television all right like, so it was sitting in front of the
television, get the kids to bed, but yeah this girl had started school then I suppose,
I’m not sure he started, or she started when he was there, and... I’d have to walk
down in the morning, until I got the car, we were about half a mile from the town,

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�was a matter of put... two kids into the double push chair, and... strap the other two
children... in their cots, really and said our Hail Marys on the way up the road,

He might get down maybe... maybe every three weeks or something, sometimes...
he’d come down, it would scare me... be on duty all day, and he’d arrive down like
at whatever hour, late at night, without any sleep, you know which was very,
extremely dangerous, then we kind of went through two winters where we’d frosts
only, we’d a lot of frost as well, because in Kanturk you would get snow and frost,
where in West Cork we don’t anyway, and... I remember him coming home one
evening with the other Guard, Sergeant at the time, and they were all wrapped up
with coats, the windscreen was after breaking on the way down! They were frozen,
you know and... and that and...
He, maybe one or two days, I can’t quite remember now, depending on his roster,
on the roster, you know?
Oh the kids were hyper, hyper... now once or twice he came on the train, and we
were kind of lucky enough there was a train station about... three miles, four miles,
Banteer Train Station, outside Kanturk, and... we went... went to Mallow actually I
think, went to Mallow to meet... one time! And everybody got off the train, and all
the kids were excited about their daddy coming, and even the small little fellah,
and... no sign of him... and I thought, ‘oh my God, no mobile phones, what do you
do?’ so I went to the office and he says ‘he’s after getting off, he fell asleep on the
way down and got off’... there was two fellahs asleep and once he woke up, he was
‘get up, grab this, wake up, wake up, it’s Mallow!’ the two of them out there and the
train off!
So that was okay too, but you know these kind of little disappointments for the
children, that’s understandable you know, and that, but... it was mostly he drove
now, the odd time as I say he... came down in the train and that...
Well we got another car then we got... and it was a banger of a car, it got me from
A to B, which was great really it gave me freedom then, I had a bit of freedom then,
because I could visit one or two friends of mine, do you know that I had, friends I
had made in Kanturk, and right, I plagued them, probably, I probably ended up at
their door one particular... maybe ten o’clock in the morning, I’d be outside their
door, do you know, and I stayed there for most of the day with the kids playing with
the other kids, just for an adult conversation.
But we did went up then... oh some time in that summer...

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�I took the four of them up with me, yeah up in the train, and he was to pick me up
in Dublin, and that we’d drive the rest... and... I went up and I said ‘now we’ll be
leaving, my own children won’t be leaving me now, because when they come to visit
me the kitchen sink comes, the bags... I went with four children, one on my arm,
and two big bags, cloth nappies and clothes, and that’s how I went travelling with
the two, or four kids, I said if anyone saw me! But lucky enough the other sergeant
above and his wife were very good, we stayed with them in Lifford, and... we are
still friends today.
We stayed a week. Now they were very good, but I mean in, in turn Con and the
other sergeants would have been good, there was six of them went up at the time,
they were promoted, and there was only one house available... and that lady was
pregnant, she was the only one was pregnant, so everybody said that... they could
have the house, so nobody else moved up, the other sergeant moved up, only that
sergeant, and we are great friends today... we visited there recently, but to arrive
into anyone’s house with four children!
Yes, you see I knew that I could wash the clothes there for the kids, so I didn’t have
to take the kitchen sink with me, you know? Back down I think, I’m not sure if he
drove, I can’t remember that now, we drove down, did Con bring us all the way, did
he come home that time with us, or not, but yeah.
The loneliness, yeah... the loneliness of everything at that time, like you know, and
what would be on television like you had to... do you know, the loneliness and
then... even if you were sick, you had, or felt unwell, you had no-one to help you, do
you know I remember one time... the youngest girl, we had three girls first and then
Niall is the only boy, is the youngest, and the youngest girl, she got croup, I was
told, and there was a shortage of petrol as well, right, so that was being rationed,
and we had frost... so we had to get the doctor to come up, I couldn’t go down, and
I was extremely sick myself, I never... remembered pain I had in my face, I never
understood, sinus, was the first attack of sinus I ever got, got three in my life, but
that was the first one... and I, he had to come up to the two of us... he had petrol, I
had no petrol, and then... he told me like the croup, so... well she had croup and I
had sinus, so he had given me some kind of medication, that you dissolve them in
water, like Alka Seltzers, they were the old... tablet long ago, I don’t know what
these were, but they were similar to that, and oh... was... I... sick... couldn’t keep it
down, I had Clare sick in the other room, and the other three running around, so... I
felt like... if I could get sick when I had help I would be delighted! That you could
stay in bed yourself, you know? And I had to ring him again the following day and
he’d come up and inject me to stop me from vomiting... and you know, I still had to
get up and do the things with the children, and... with the other three lively ones.
The children missed him ... and so much now where, the youngest nine could never
understand his daddy going away, he could never never understand daddy going
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�away, and... the others were just that little bit two, three, four... so but when we
came... to Skibbereen, that’s jumping a bit now, we going to Skibbereen, we had
rented a house, kind of the street below the Garda station... you could see, and
Con’s office actually was facing the house we had rented and we had to rent a
house with a railing because Niall was a divil, that would keep him in off the street,
and he spent the first... week I’d say... standing at the front window looking at his
daddy had gone, and he couldn’t understand, and daddy’d come down maybe, see,
he came down, we were trying to settle in, and... he’d come down a few times out
of the office, you know, probably shouldn’t be down, but I mean he’d call down to
know was everything all right, and Niall couldn’t understand his daddy coming in
uniform, and he was gone to work again, and he could be back in two hours, when
he was gone to work before he could be gone for a week, you know, for a child of
two and a half to you know, take that in, was...
Like Niall he developed an impediment then as a result of all the coming and the
going, and that yeah, and I was putting him to bed one night and he said to me, I
said ‘come on, say your prayers’, two and a half, two and a half, and he said ‘I don’t
like Holy God’... and I said ‘why don’t you like Holy God?’, ‘because he makes me
say Kay, Kay, Kay’ – that’s the eldest girl, and he’s you know, he was trying to
explain that while God was making him repeat the word,
It was in kind of a quiet way for them I suppose, and... they weren’t the experts
there, never the inspectors then, he’d only call for daddy and I’d say he’ll be back in
a few days, and you try to keep him occupied, and you know...
Madness when he came home. But the morning he left, was extremely sad, they
were up that morning, and I have pictures of that, and he crying, and they crying.

He was going to the unknown, we didn’t know what it was going to entail, but I
suppose what that was through it really is... we didn’t know where it was going to
end, and it was kind of a journey for us, maybe a rough journey, but... you know,
we didn’t know when it was going to end, so you’re hoping it’s going to end and I
think that’s what kind of what kept us going, do you know?
He was up there from... oh was it two, eighteen months or something, and he had
to dig in two winters yeah I think.
And he came down I think in October and we did move to Skibbereen, we had to sell
our house then as well, and the eldest there was making her Holy Communion, so
she would have been seven... before we came down to Skibbereeen, so yeah.

4	&#13;  
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�It cause adjustment really, because I had him in the house one day, you could kill
him!
I had a routine, yeah exactly, and you know like he’s bringing, have three quarters
of an hour for their lunch, that time, and we’d have our dinner in the middle of the
day, so... dinner had to be on the table when he came in, no matter what, how...
what the children were doing, or how sick, or whatever they’d be, you know you had
to have whereas, when he was away then I could be that little bit... relaxed ‘cause I
wasn’t set to a... time clock like, yeah. It’s still raw! You know we used to think
about it, yeah, I didn’t think now it would be but it is.
The kids don’t talk about it at all now, yeah... the move then I think, the move was
another thing in, in the Guards like, the move didn’t go too well at all from Kanturk
to Skibbereen with them, no, no no... yeah.
I mean the eldest one of them was gone to school and the second one was in school
there and the third one just had a day or two for you know, they... take them to
school a day or two, they used to do that a day or two before the summer holidays
and they would be starting then in September, so she had started there as well,
and... he was talking, he was... talking about going back to Kerry, because of his
parents, go back nearer, because we moved from Kanturk, I moved a little bit nearer
to home, but say not very much,
I am from Kinsale, but he lived, he moved twice as far from home, from Listowel, to
Skibbereen, that made that journey twice as far, I didn’t gain much... road at all like,
but... you know he wanted to go back maybe to Kerry, and... one time he got a
transfer to... Macroom, and... when I mentioned, when the eldest girl came in and
she, I said we’re moving to Macroom, now he had turned it down at that stage, he
wasn’t going to, and... didn’t take it, and... she just ran up the stairs crying, and I
said ‘come down, I’m only joking, daddy’s not going to take it’, she was so upset...
the other two... didn’t take any notice, the little small fellah, then when he came in I
said it to him as well, and he said ‘well we’re not going until we can take Skibbereen
in the trailer’! so Skibbereen to Macroom, that’s innocence, you know. Everything’s
good at that stage.
We’re in Skibbereen since ’79, oh ’79.
You know, my father died, yeah we’d just were moved... I was staying in Kanturk,
yeah he died in February, yeah we moved here in August.

5	&#13;  
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�Con found it as tough as the children really, tougher probably, because... he couldn’t
say goodbye to them in the morning, he’d be leaving, he might be gone at six
o’clock in the morning, you know, and he wasn’t able to say goodbye to them then,
either when he was going back, you know, and...
Then you’d have to keep them up until he got home,
Yes, daddy’s coming home, yes, now in fairness he brought down clothes to them,
and that, that kept him going, and shopping across the border, you know, washing
powder and things now were much cheaper, so he’d come down with the boot full,
and he always got, you know, they always got something, but ‘twasn’t sweets or
things they got, they got... clothes, dresses, or... you know things like that, and
there was always a kind of a little, well not every time, now he didn’t bring it every
time, he would have brought the household stuff maybe all right, but... that kept
him sane as well above. Doing that little bit of shopping and achieving and getting...
something for them,
Yes, in that way was kicking out the brushes for the kids, you know, when they’ve...
photographs, they’re always saying... ‘Jaysus’!
Oh he was losing out time, with them growing up, and the things they were doing,
and going to school, and they doing the homework with them, like at that stage, and
with your first child, you need to be around for things like that, because that’s all the
new experiences, God help the second and third they’re just told ‘do your
homework’!
But there’s always something with the first child, you know, it’s all new experience
for parents, but then... yeah, I don’t think, I don’t think there’s anything else now in
fairness, yeah, you know,
[End of Recording Part One / Start of Recording Part Two]
He was in good digs, and they were in Lifford, down... and... they were excellent
people, then we went up and stayed with them, and... we’ve been friends today, her
husband is dead now, and... she’s still alive, she’s eighty five, we talk every year for
her birthday, and if I don’t ring, she said is something, if I don’t ring early in the
morning, sometimes I may go late on the day, but I’d always ring her on the day,
and... she’ll say ‘oh that Myra, is Myra all right? I didn’t hear from Myra today’, you
know so, but that made it easy, being in with a good digs made it much much easier
for Con, because the first place he was in... I think ‘twas kind of... you roll out of
6	&#13;  
	&#13;  

�bed, and I roll into bed, and you roll out of bed... but, when he got into that digs like
it made so, so homely, and they, yeah.
He was able to ring, he was able to ring more often then, from them, yeah.
They’d the phone at home as well, yeah so... that definitely made it easier for both
of us, yeah.
Yes, and being up there and staying there, and knowing where he was staying,
and... you know, seeing where it was, and... what kind of people were... and that,
yeah.

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http://www.green-and-blue.org/</text>
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