1 10 21 Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource 5 Decades Project (collection) Description An account of the resource "Forthspring has worked since 1997 to build relationships between neighbouring Protestant and Catholic communities in West Belfast. The 5 Decades Project grew out of a desire to examine these communities' very different experience of living through the 'Troubles', with the goal of developing a shared, but not agreed, account of the conflict and its impact. Experiences and memories were gathered through storytelling in small groups from the same community background, roughly structured around the 5 decades beginning with the 1960s. There were also opportunities to share and hear stories from other communities. Over 150 people have taken part." Forthspring 5 Decades Project. (2014). 'Talking About The Troubles'. (Rear cover) Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Forthspring Inter Community Group Stories Collected Non DC - Number of stories recorded as part of the project. 20+ interviews (leading to 80 stories in the published book) Stories Deposited Non DC - Number of stories deposited with Accounts of the Conflict. 6 Collection Permission Form Non DC - Collection permission form signed and returned. Yes (signed 12 November 2014) Delayed Access Non DC - Yes/No on request for delayed access. No Availability Online Non DC - Availabilty Status (deposited, delayed, external, cain) deposited Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Story Available Y/N Yes Story Format Main format of the story (video; audio; etc.). Audio, and Text Interviewee Forename(s) Danny Story Title The title, if any, of the story or account. Untitled Story, by Danny Ind Permission Form Yes/No - Individual permission form signed and returned to Accounts. Yes (signed 16 September 2014) Ind Form Uploaded Scanned copy of paper form for preservation alongside the stories. Yes Ind Delay Access Y/N Y/N for individual story-teller delayed access request (check signed permission form) No Interviewee Gender Male Identity Provided? Has a proper name been provided? If yes, leave blank No; anonymous Story Source Source of where the story can be found. http://accounts.ulster.ac.uk/repo/items/show/2508 Language Spoken Main language spoken during the interview. English Religion Religion / denomination that the interviewee was brought up in. Catholic Birth Country Country of birth if mentioned (or make assessment based on interview). Northern Ireland Nationality Details of Nationality / Citizenship. Irish Dates Mentioned Specific dates, or ranges. 1969; [1960s]; 1973; [1970s]; Places Mentioned Places mentioned: cities, towns, villages, etc. Crocus Street (Belfast, Northern Ireland) People Mentioned Major and minor figures mentioned. Martin Bell, Ian Paisley Organisations Mentioned Main organisations mentioned. British Army (BA) Other Keywords Other keywords mentioned in the interview. Bombings Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Untitled Story, by Danny (story details) Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Forthspring Inter Community Group Description An account of the resource A personal account by one of the 20 plus individuals who took part in the 5 Decades Project. These accounts related to experiences of the Northern Ireland conflict, particularly for people living close to the Springfield Road, west Belfast. The stories cover five decades beginning with the 1960s. Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Forthspring Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 2014 Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource Audio, and Text Language A language of the resource English Availability Online Non DC - Availabilty Status (deposited, delayed, external, cain) deposited 5 Decades Forthspring Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource 5 Decades Project (collection) Description An account of the resource "Forthspring has worked since 1997 to build relationships between neighbouring Protestant and Catholic communities in West Belfast. The 5 Decades Project grew out of a desire to examine these communities' very different experience of living through the 'Troubles', with the goal of developing a shared, but not agreed, account of the conflict and its impact. Experiences and memories were gathered through storytelling in small groups from the same community background, roughly structured around the 5 decades beginning with the 1960s. There were also opportunities to share and hear stories from other communities. Over 150 people have taken part." Forthspring 5 Decades Project. (2014). 'Talking About The Troubles'. (Rear cover) Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Forthspring Inter Community Group Stories Collected Non DC - Number of stories recorded as part of the project. 20+ interviews (leading to 80 stories in the published book) Stories Deposited Non DC - Number of stories deposited with Accounts of the Conflict. 6 Collection Permission Form Non DC - Collection permission form signed and returned. Yes (signed 12 November 2014) Delayed Access Non DC - Yes/No on request for delayed access. No Availability Online Non DC - Availabilty Status (deposited, delayed, external, cain) deposited Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Story Available Y/N Yes Story Format Main format of the story (video; audio; etc.). Audio, and Text Interviewee Forename(s) Dorothy Story Title The title, if any, of the story or account. Untitled Story, by Dorothy Ind Permission Form Yes/No - Individual permission form signed and returned to Accounts. Yes (signed 4 September 2014) Ind Form Uploaded Scanned copy of paper form for preservation alongside the stories. Yes Ind Delay Access Y/N Y/N for individual story-teller delayed access request (check signed permission form) No Interviewee Gender Female Identity Provided? Has a proper name been provided? If yes, leave blank No; anonymous Religion Religion / denomination that the interviewee was brought up in. Protestant Birth Country Country of birth if mentioned (or make assessment based on interview). Northern Ireland Nationality Details of Nationality / Citizenship. British Status Details of status of interviewee during conflict (civilian; security force; combatant; paramilitary; political party; loyal order; etc.). Civilian Published Format Video; Audio; Document; Image. Audio Dates Mentioned Specific dates, or ranges. 1975; [1970s]; 1989; [1980s]; 1997 [1990s] Events Mentioned Major events mentioned. Ulster Workers Council Strike (1974) Places Mentioned Places mentioned: cities, towns, villages, etc. Springfield Road; Woodvale; Shankill People Mentioned Major and minor figures mentioned. Gerry Adams; David Campton Organisations Mentioned Main organisations mentioned. Ulsters Worker Council (UWC) Other Keywords Other keywords mentioned in the interview. The Troubles Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Untitled Story, by Dorothy (story details) Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Forthspring Inter Community Group Description An account of the resource A personal account by one of the 20 plus individuals who took part in the 5 Decades Project. These accounts related to experiences of the Northern Ireland conflict, particularly for people living close to the Springfield Road, west Belfast. The stories cover five decades beginning with the 1960s. Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Forthspring Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 2014 Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource Audio, and Text Language A language of the resource English Availability Online Non DC - Availabilty Status (deposited, delayed, external, cain) deposited 5 Decades Forthspring Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource 5 Decades Project (collection) Description An account of the resource "Forthspring has worked since 1997 to build relationships between neighbouring Protestant and Catholic communities in West Belfast. The 5 Decades Project grew out of a desire to examine these communities' very different experience of living through the 'Troubles', with the goal of developing a shared, but not agreed, account of the conflict and its impact. Experiences and memories were gathered through storytelling in small groups from the same community background, roughly structured around the 5 decades beginning with the 1960s. There were also opportunities to share and hear stories from other communities. Over 150 people have taken part." Forthspring 5 Decades Project. (2014). 'Talking About The Troubles'. (Rear cover) Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Forthspring Inter Community Group Stories Collected Non DC - Number of stories recorded as part of the project. 20+ interviews (leading to 80 stories in the published book) Stories Deposited Non DC - Number of stories deposited with Accounts of the Conflict. 6 Collection Permission Form Non DC - Collection permission form signed and returned. Yes (signed 12 November 2014) Delayed Access Non DC - Yes/No on request for delayed access. No Availability Online Non DC - Availabilty Status (deposited, delayed, external, cain) deposited Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Story Title The title, if any, of the story or account. Untitled Story, by Jim Story Available Y/N Yes Interviewee Forename(s) Jim Ind Permission Form Yes/No - Individual permission form signed and returned to Accounts. Yes (signed 26 August 2014) Ind Form Uploaded Scanned copy of paper form for preservation alongside the stories. Yes Ind Delay Access Y/N Y/N for individual story-teller delayed access request (check signed permission form) No Story Format Main format of the story (video; audio; etc.). Audio, and Text Interviewee Gender Male Identity Provided? Has a proper name been provided? If yes, leave blank No; anonymous Story Source Source of where the story can be found. http://accounts.ulster.ac.uk/repo/items/show/2512 Language Spoken Main language spoken during the interview. English Birth Country Country of birth if mentioned (or make assessment based on interview). Northern Ireland Status Details of status of interviewee during conflict (civilian; security force; combatant; paramilitary; political party; loyal order; etc.). Civilian Published Format Video; Audio; Document; Image. Audio Original Format The type of object, such as painting, sculpture, paper, photo, and additional data Windows Media Audio File (. WMA) Events Mentioned Major events mentioned. Ulster Worker’s Council (UWC) strike (1974); Places Mentioned Places mentioned: cities, towns, villages, etc. Andersontown [Belfast, Northern Ireland]; Shankill [Belfast, Northern Ireland]; Organisations Mentioned Main organisations mentioned. The Ulster Defence Regiment (UDR ); Ulster Workers Council (UWC); Ulster Defence Association (UDA) Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Untitled Story, by Jim (story details) Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Forthspring Inter Community Group Description An account of the resource A personal account by one of the 20 plus individuals who took part in the 5 Decades Project. These accounts related to experiences of the Northern Ireland conflict, particularly for people living close to the Springfield Road, west Belfast. The stories cover five decades beginning with the 1960s. Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Forthspring Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 2014 Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource Audio, and Text Language A language of the resource English Availability Online Non DC - Availabilty Status (deposited, delayed, external, cain) deposited 5 Decades Forthspring Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource 5 Decades Project (collection) Description An account of the resource "Forthspring has worked since 1997 to build relationships between neighbouring Protestant and Catholic communities in West Belfast. The 5 Decades Project grew out of a desire to examine these communities' very different experience of living through the 'Troubles', with the goal of developing a shared, but not agreed, account of the conflict and its impact. Experiences and memories were gathered through storytelling in small groups from the same community background, roughly structured around the 5 decades beginning with the 1960s. There were also opportunities to share and hear stories from other communities. Over 150 people have taken part." Forthspring 5 Decades Project. (2014). 'Talking About The Troubles'. (Rear cover) Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Forthspring Inter Community Group Stories Collected Non DC - Number of stories recorded as part of the project. 20+ interviews (leading to 80 stories in the published book) Stories Deposited Non DC - Number of stories deposited with Accounts of the Conflict. 6 Collection Permission Form Non DC - Collection permission form signed and returned. Yes (signed 12 November 2014) Delayed Access Non DC - Yes/No on request for delayed access. No Availability Online Non DC - Availabilty Status (deposited, delayed, external, cain) deposited Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Story Title The title, if any, of the story or account. Untitled Story, by Marian Story Available Y/N Yes Interviewee Forename(s) Marian Ind Permission Form Yes/No - Individual permission form signed and returned to Accounts. Yes (signed 17 September 2014) Ind Form Uploaded Scanned copy of paper form for preservation alongside the stories. Yes Ind Delay Access Date Date for individual story-teller delayed access (check signed permission form) No Story Format Main format of the story (video; audio; etc.). Audio, and Text Interviewee Gender Female Story Source Source of where the story can be found. http://accounts.ulster.ac.uk/repo/items/show/2514 Events Mentioned Major events mentioned. Falls Road fire (August 1969) Places Mentioned Places mentioned: cities, towns, villages, etc. The Falls, The Antrim Road [north Belfast, Northern Ireland], Turf Lodge [west Belfast, Northern Ireland] Organisations Mentioned Main organisations mentioned. The British Army (BA); The IRA Other Keywords Other keywords mentioned in the interview. The Troubles, Rioting, Peace line, Peaceline, Peace Walls Identity Provided? Has a proper name been provided? If yes, leave blank No; anonymous Themes/Topics Mentioned Major Themes/Topics first, then sub-themes and topics. Security Forces; Killing People Mentioned Major and minor figures mentioned. John Judge; Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Untitled Story, by Marian (story details) Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Forthspring Inter Community Group Description An account of the resource A personal account by one of the 20 plus individuals who took part in the 5 Decades Project. These accounts related to experiences of the Northern Ireland conflict, particularly for people living close to the Springfield Road, west Belfast. The stories cover five decades beginning with the 1960s. Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Forthspring Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 2012 Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource Audio, and Text Language A language of the resource English Availability Online Non DC - Availabilty Status (deposited, delayed, external, cain) deposited 5 Decades Forthspring Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource 5 Decades Project (collection) Description An account of the resource "Forthspring has worked since 1997 to build relationships between neighbouring Protestant and Catholic communities in West Belfast. The 5 Decades Project grew out of a desire to examine these communities' very different experience of living through the 'Troubles', with the goal of developing a shared, but not agreed, account of the conflict and its impact. Experiences and memories were gathered through storytelling in small groups from the same community background, roughly structured around the 5 decades beginning with the 1960s. There were also opportunities to share and hear stories from other communities. Over 150 people have taken part." Forthspring 5 Decades Project. (2014). 'Talking About The Troubles'. (Rear cover) Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Forthspring Inter Community Group Stories Collected Non DC - Number of stories recorded as part of the project. 20+ interviews (leading to 80 stories in the published book) Stories Deposited Non DC - Number of stories deposited with Accounts of the Conflict. 6 Collection Permission Form Non DC - Collection permission form signed and returned. Yes (signed 12 November 2014) Delayed Access Non DC - Yes/No on request for delayed access. No Availability Online Non DC - Availabilty Status (deposited, delayed, external, cain) deposited Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Story Title The title, if any, of the story or account. Untitled Story Story Available Y/N Yes Interviewee Forename(s) Michael Ind Permission Form Yes/No - Individual permission form signed and returned to Accounts. Yes (signed 17 September 2014) Ind Form Uploaded Scanned copy of paper form for preservation alongside the stories. Yes Ind Delay Access Y/N Y/N for individual story-teller delayed access request (check signed permission form) No Story Format Main format of the story (video; audio; etc.). Audio, and Text Interviewee Gender Male Language Spoken Main language spoken during the interview. English Transcription Any written text transcribed from a sound Transcription also available Religion Religion / denomination that the interviewee was brought up in. Protestant Birth Country Country of birth if mentioned (or make assessment based on interview). Northern Ireland Nationality Details of Nationality / Citizenship. British Status Details of status of interviewee during conflict (civilian; security force; combatant; paramilitary; political party; loyal order; etc.). Civilian Published Format Video; Audio; Document; Image. Audio Original Format The type of object, such as painting, sculpture, paper, photo, and additional data Windows Media Audio File (. WMA) Themes/Topics Mentioned Major Themes/Topics first, then sub-themes and topics. Security Forces; Killing Dates Mentioned Specific dates, or ranges. 1986; [1980s] Places Mentioned Places mentioned: cities, towns, villages, etc. Springfield Road [Belfast; Northern Ireland] Organisations Mentioned Main organisations mentioned. The Royal Ulster Constabulary (RUC); The Orange Order Other Keywords Other keywords mentioned in the interview. The Troubles, Protests, Rioting Identity Provided? Has a proper name been provided? If yes, leave blank No; anonymous Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Untitled Story, by Michael (story details) Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Forthspring Inter Community Group Description An account of the resource A personal account by one of the 20 plus individuals who took part in the 5 Decades Project. These accounts related to experiences of the Northern Ireland conflict, particularly for people living close to the Springfield Road, west Belfast. The stories cover five decades beginning with the 1960s. Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Forthspring Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 2014 Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource Audio, and Text Language A language of the resource English Availability Online Non DC - Availabilty Status (deposited, delayed, external, cain) deposited 5 Decades Forthspring Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource 5 Decades Project (collection) Description An account of the resource "Forthspring has worked since 1997 to build relationships between neighbouring Protestant and Catholic communities in West Belfast. The 5 Decades Project grew out of a desire to examine these communities' very different experience of living through the 'Troubles', with the goal of developing a shared, but not agreed, account of the conflict and its impact. Experiences and memories were gathered through storytelling in small groups from the same community background, roughly structured around the 5 decades beginning with the 1960s. There were also opportunities to share and hear stories from other communities. Over 150 people have taken part." Forthspring 5 Decades Project. (2014). 'Talking About The Troubles'. (Rear cover) Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Forthspring Inter Community Group Stories Collected Non DC - Number of stories recorded as part of the project. 20+ interviews (leading to 80 stories in the published book) Stories Deposited Non DC - Number of stories deposited with Accounts of the Conflict. 6 Collection Permission Form Non DC - Collection permission form signed and returned. Yes (signed 12 November 2014) Delayed Access Non DC - Yes/No on request for delayed access. No Availability Online Non DC - Availabilty Status (deposited, delayed, external, cain) deposited Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Story Title The title, if any, of the story or account. Untitled Story, by Pam Story Available Y/N Yes Interviewee Forename(s) Pam Ind Permission Form Yes/No - Individual permission form signed and returned to Accounts. Yes (signed 17 September 2014) Ind Form Uploaded Scanned copy of paper form for preservation alongside the stories. Yes Ind Delay Access Y/N Y/N for individual story-teller delayed access request (check signed permission form) No Story Format Main format of the story (video; audio; etc.). Audio, and Text Interviewee Gender Female Story Source Source of where the story can be found. http://accounts.ulster.ac.uk/repo/admin/items/show/2518 Identity Provided? Has a proper name been provided? If yes, leave blank No; anonymous Language Spoken Main language spoken during the interview. English Transcription Any written text transcribed from a sound Transcription also available Religion Religion / denomination that the interviewee was brought up in. Protestant Marital Status Marital status of the interviewee. Married Birth Country Country of birth if mentioned (or make assessment based on interview). Northern Ireland Nationality Details of Nationality / Citizenship. British Status Details of status of interviewee during conflict (civilian; security force; combatant; paramilitary; political party; loyal order; etc.). Civilian Published Format Video; Audio; Document; Image. Audio Original Format The type of object, such as painting, sculpture, paper, photo, and additional data Windows Media Audio File (. WMA) Themes/Topics Mentioned Major Themes/Topics first, then sub-themes and topics. Security Forces; Killing Dates Mentioned Specific dates, or ranges. 1971 [1970s] Places Mentioned Places mentioned: cities, towns, villages, etc. Shankill Road [west Belfast, Northern Ireland] Organisations Mentioned Main organisations mentioned. British Army (BA) Other Keywords Other keywords mentioned in the interview. Peace Lines, peacelines, peace walls Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Untitled Story, by Pam (story details) Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Forthspring Inter Community Group Description An account of the resource A personal account by one of the 20 plus individuals who took part in the 5 Decades Project. These accounts related to experiences of the Northern Ireland conflict, particularly for people living close to the Springfield Road, west Belfast. The stories cover five decades beginning with the 1960s. Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Forthspring Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 2014 Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource Audio, and Text Language A language of the resource English Availability Online Non DC - Availabilty Status (deposited, delayed, external, cain) deposited 5 Decades Forthspring https://k8s-accounts-01.ulster.ac.uk/repo24/files/original/f001d6e725d5f0e56da0fafd466e02ab.mp3 a82df9ed32d8e7e3267d6fe2723149ea Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource 5 Decades Project (collection) Description An account of the resource "Forthspring has worked since 1997 to build relationships between neighbouring Protestant and Catholic communities in West Belfast. The 5 Decades Project grew out of a desire to examine these communities' very different experience of living through the 'Troubles', with the goal of developing a shared, but not agreed, account of the conflict and its impact. Experiences and memories were gathered through storytelling in small groups from the same community background, roughly structured around the 5 decades beginning with the 1960s. There were also opportunities to share and hear stories from other communities. Over 150 people have taken part." Forthspring 5 Decades Project. (2014). 'Talking About The Troubles'. (Rear cover) Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Forthspring Inter Community Group Stories Collected Non DC - Number of stories recorded as part of the project. 20+ interviews (leading to 80 stories in the published book) Stories Deposited Non DC - Number of stories deposited with Accounts of the Conflict. 6 Collection Permission Form Non DC - Collection permission form signed and returned. Yes (signed 12 November 2014) Delayed Access Non DC - Yes/No on request for delayed access. No Availability Online Non DC - Availabilty Status (deposited, delayed, external, cain) deposited Sound A resource primarily intended to be heard. Examples include a music playback file format, an audio compact disc, and recorded speech or sounds. Transcription Any written text transcribed from a sound Transcription also available Original Format The type of object, such as painting, sculpture, paper, photo, and additional data Windows Media Audio File (.WMA) Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) 17 minutes 0 seconds Bit Rate/Frequency Rate at which bits are transferred (i.e. 96 kbit/s would be FM quality audio) 192 kbps Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Untitled Story, by Danny (story audio) Description An account of the resource Audio recording of interview with Danny which was recorded as part of the 5 Decades Project. The project was conducted by Forthspring Inter Community Group. Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Forthspring Inter Community Group Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 2014 Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource Audio; MP3 Format Sound (.mp3) Language A language of the resource English Availability Online Non DC - Availabilty Status (deposited, delayed, external, cain) deposited Catalogue ID Non DC - ID for the Catalogue entry that relates to this entry 2227 5 Decades Forthspring https://k8s-accounts-01.ulster.ac.uk/repo24/files/original/fae3513736c18330018a4fbc86c109ce.pdf 8006ceabae10dc02ef38f9933e5e04a5 PDF Text Text Interviewer: You told me when we were with the big group that you actually had quite a clear memory of seeing soldiers for the first time in Crocus Street. You reckoned you were 12 at the time... 2: Yeah I was 12. I think they came along on the streets on I think it was the 14th of August or something like that – ’69. XXINAUDIBLEXX I lived in Crocus Street, two streets away from it and I remember there were barricades up at the time, because I believe a few weeks before it when Bay* Street burn down and I remember people saying the soldiers were coming onto the streets. I and my brother and a few other wee lads with whom we played football went up to the top of the street and we saw these soldiers walking up. You hear the... I think you called it whippets at the time and there were maybe a hundred or so just marching up the street and the Major or whoever it was calling out all the orders. That was scary. Interviewer: You found it a frightening experience? 2: Yes I thought it was frightening, yeah; because the Major or whoever it was, was calling out the orders and the soldiers were turning around and actually facing you. I’d never even seen things like this in television; and this was real life just standing facing me. Interviewer: Did you know why they were there? 2: No, not really, just when you see something in the news, and when you’re at that age you’re not interested in anything like that. Interviewer: Can you remember the reactions of the grown-ups? 2: The grown-ups more-or-less welcomed them. I remember people used to bring them cups of tea and that. Interviewer: But did that worry first time you seen them? ** 2: The very first time I seen them, the grown-ups welcomed them, because the grown-ups thought that it was just a matter of time before other streets were burnt out and the Catholic people at the time thought that the soldiers were here to protect them. Interviewer: Did you play with the soldiers? 2: No. I just kept away from them. Some kids – people younger, maybe 6 or 7 year-olds would have went up to the soldiers, but I didn’t go near any of them. I was more-or-less scared of them. And when they did come in, I’m not too sure, you seen their berets and all – and their guns. I think it was the Paratroopers or something like that. Because my father, as he fought in the war, he was more-or-less welcoming of them too; he was able to tell you what regiment and all they were from. That type of thing. But definitely on the Falls Road they were welcomed for the first time. Interviewer: and your father he was in the British Army too... during the Second World War. 2: Yeah, he was signed up – enlisted. He went all through the war – 6 years. �Interviewer: There was another thing you told us about, moving on a few years, as you get a bit older, one of the first bands you seen was Thin Lizzy. I’m just interested in what kind of entertainment was like in Belfast for you as a teenager? 2: In 1970, 14, 15... up to ’73. Because of the troubles which were going on, and because it was at the centre of the town, there was all security gates and that type of thing... and you were young; you weren’t allowed out. You were only allowed to go to a disco or round the corner or something. When I lived in Crocus Street we had a ground* behind St Paul’s chapel... we had a hall; a band hall. A band used to play there one a Tuesday or Wednesday night or something like that. But another night of the week we used to hold a disco for the younger ones. So we used to go to the disco every week. As you get a wee bit older, you get insistent* in your music… ’72, ’73, and at one time, I think I just started working at Europa. I started in Europa in August ’73. I think it was at the later part of ’73, a couple of friends of mine said that Thin Lizzy were playing in the Romano’s*; Romano’s used to be used for leisure* or whatever it was, upstairs in Upper Queen Street. So four of us, having bought tickets we went down to it. XXINAUDIBLEXX It was all mineral water and that type a thing. That was the first concert I ever went to, and it was in the centre of town and I was only allowed to go because it was the top end of town; just off Castle Street. At that time I had an older sister and she used to go down to the likes of the Starlight, which was down in Ann Street I think. That was for the more-or-less older ones; people who were 19-20. But that’s the first concert I was ever at, the Thin Lizzy concert – in ’73. Interviewer: So, what age would you have been then? 2: I was 16. Interviewer: So, you were still quite young. 2: Yes, and I think it was just the time before ‘Whiskey in the Jar’ came out. That was out in ’73. So that was my first concert; the Romano’s you called it Interviewer: So you were saying when the security gates came along or as they came along; that kind of made the City centre out of bounds for entertainment stuff, you know. 2: Yeah… It was too dangerous for you to go into it. You know most of the town closed anyway at ten or eleven O’ Clock at night – there was nothing in the town for anybody. Interviewer: And did you go to any other concerts in the town? 2: No, only… in about 1979 or 1980 I went to a Human League concert in the City Hall… whenever they were popular. I went to that concert. Interviewer: The last thing I want to ask you is just about the whole experience of working in the Europa, as the Europa was infamous for being the most bombed hotel. What are your memories of working there? �2: When I worked there I was training to become a chef and I think while I look back at it, they were the best years of my life, despite the troubles and all those sorts of things. But you were meeting people of different religion… Interviewer: I think you said it was the first time you’d met a Protestant was in the Europa… 2: Yeah more-or-less I socialised with Protestants in the Europa. That’s the first time I really socialised with Protestants… because, you know, we were never brought up to be bigoted in any way; just treat them the way you meet them. That’s the way my family were brought up. Even through the generations. So that was the first time I had actually met Protestants and actually socialise with them – have a drink with them and that kind of thing – get to know them. Working there was like one big happy family. At the same time too, you were trying to learn your trade – and it was hard work. But, through the times it was bombed you did your best to get into work, and no matter what, through the companionship with those with whom you worked, you just got through it. I loved working there. Interviewer: Can you remember any particular time when bombs went off? 2: I remember one time we were told to get out. There was a bomb scare – one of the bombs didn’t go off. Somebody had driven with a bomb into the delivery bay one time and we were all told to get out, and the thing went off while we were standing outside it on the other side of the street just down at the back of Ramsen’s* there; down near the tech . But when I worked there I actually went through three or four of the bombings. It was just a part of… you know, you get used to it. It didn’t faze you in any way. You know you were never scared to go to work; the only time you were afraid to go to work was maybe walking to work or something because of a drive-by shooting or something like that – because I remember going to work one morning and I walked down the Grosvenor. Whenever I got into work, I was told that there were two postmen shot dead on Northumberland Street on the Falls Road and that was the same time I was coming to work. Interviewer: What are your memories of actually working in the Europa? Was it a particularly happy time? 2: Yes. It was hard work, you were training and you did split-shifts. You’d start in the morning at 10 O’ Clock and maybe get the preparation ready for lunchtime, and after lunch, we got the preparation ready for that night. We took our break at half two/three clock then back again for half six for services, then start again at seven o’ clock to half ten and you wouldn’t get home to 12 o’ clock at night. Interviewer: So it was a long day… 2: It was a long day. It was a split shift. Interviewer: And how did it work out? 2: In the afternoon we maybe used to go to the pictures or something like that. You know, if three or four of us were working on split shifts, maybe we would have went to the ABC and watched a film… �Interviewer: Yes, just down the street really. 2: I remember actually going to watch the sting in it; the sting was out in, I think, ’74. Interviewer: If you were out of work at 12 O’ Clock then, how would you have travelled home? 2: I would usually get a taxi home. Interviewer: Was that just for convenience or safety? 2: Safety – staff taxi. They usually provided us a taxi free. * Interviewer: Well, they understood… 2: They understood that it was later on… it would have been risky. Maybe two people were going to the Falls and two people were going to the Shankill. Interviewer: And one taxi took you all? 2: One taxi took the lot – took the four of us. I remember I had a good lot of friends there. Interviewer: and do you think the actual experience of the hotel being under attack and that sort of tough environment… I get that sort of sense from you that it pulled people together. 2: It put people together. I think it made the people there stronger… that no matter how many times they bombed it, we were going to work on. In no time at all the Hotel was back up and running again. Even through the Loyalist strike… Interviewer: You stayed open during that time? 2: It stayed open during that time. I remember one day we actually had to with candles and make salads and that type of thing. We used to meet some of the… Martin Bell – I remember meeting him a few times and I saw Ian Paisley and people like that. Sometimes the politicians were in – they dined in the B theatre as well. Harper Berne* was manager then. You saw some famous people there – I enjoyed it. Sometimes we used to go round to a disco where British Home Stores was. Louis Small was the DJ there. I can’t remember what you called the place. Some of the staff used to go round there. Interviewer: So despite the fact that there were the security gates and the town was very quiet… there were still these kinds of places… 2: …but you were still out at 11 or half 11 at night. Interviewer: It closed up at that time? 2: Yeah. There was a pensioner’s part upstairs as well.*But it was experience I was getting through cooking – it was good experience. Interviewer: Did you serve food in the penthouse?* �2: Yeah, you served food to the pensioners; after you got the pensioner’s pocketful. There was a programme on television a year or two ago about the pensioners pockets; some of them were actually in their early sixties, and they were talking about it. Gummy bears we would call them. Interviewer: Did you like working up there? 2: Yes. Just… for the experience. Interviewer: So like a nightclub was it then? 2: It was like a nightclub. Well that closed about 12 o’ clock at night. It wasn’t every night, maybe once every couple of months or something. � Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource 5 Decades Project (collection) Description An account of the resource "Forthspring has worked since 1997 to build relationships between neighbouring Protestant and Catholic communities in West Belfast. The 5 Decades Project grew out of a desire to examine these communities' very different experience of living through the 'Troubles', with the goal of developing a shared, but not agreed, account of the conflict and its impact. Experiences and memories were gathered through storytelling in small groups from the same community background, roughly structured around the 5 decades beginning with the 1960s. There were also opportunities to share and hear stories from other communities. Over 150 people have taken part." Forthspring 5 Decades Project. (2014). 'Talking About The Troubles'. (Rear cover) Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Forthspring Inter Community Group Stories Collected Non DC - Number of stories recorded as part of the project. 20+ interviews (leading to 80 stories in the published book) Stories Deposited Non DC - Number of stories deposited with Accounts of the Conflict. 6 Collection Permission Form Non DC - Collection permission form signed and returned. Yes (signed 12 November 2014) Delayed Access Non DC - Yes/No on request for delayed access. No Availability Online Non DC - Availabilty Status (deposited, delayed, external, cain) deposited Publication A book, article, monograph etc. Author Author of the publication Danny Date Type Publication, Submission, Completion date etc. 2014 Publication Title Full title of publication, as it appears on item. Transcript of audio interview. Publication Status Published, in Press, Unpublished, etc. Unpublished Number of Pages 5 Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Untitled Story, by Danny (story transcript) Description An account of the resource Transcript (PDF) of the audio recording of interview with Danny which was recorded as part of the 5 Decades Project. The project was conducted by Forthspring Inter Community Group. Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Forthspring Inter Community Group Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 2014 Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource PDF version of transcript Language A language of the resource English Availability Online Non DC - Availabilty Status (deposited, delayed, external, cain) deposited Catalogue ID Non DC - ID for the Catalogue entry that relates to this entry 2227 5 Decades Forthspring https://k8s-accounts-01.ulster.ac.uk/repo24/files/original/adaf7fc23fa9f44007d223ff6811c57e.mp3 bb7db43d54a1671f6f4cd0065e684e1e Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource 5 Decades Project (collection) Description An account of the resource "Forthspring has worked since 1997 to build relationships between neighbouring Protestant and Catholic communities in West Belfast. The 5 Decades Project grew out of a desire to examine these communities' very different experience of living through the 'Troubles', with the goal of developing a shared, but not agreed, account of the conflict and its impact. Experiences and memories were gathered through storytelling in small groups from the same community background, roughly structured around the 5 decades beginning with the 1960s. There were also opportunities to share and hear stories from other communities. Over 150 people have taken part." Forthspring 5 Decades Project. (2014). 'Talking About The Troubles'. (Rear cover) Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Forthspring Inter Community Group Stories Collected Non DC - Number of stories recorded as part of the project. 20+ interviews (leading to 80 stories in the published book) Stories Deposited Non DC - Number of stories deposited with Accounts of the Conflict. 6 Collection Permission Form Non DC - Collection permission form signed and returned. Yes (signed 12 November 2014) Delayed Access Non DC - Yes/No on request for delayed access. No Availability Online Non DC - Availabilty Status (deposited, delayed, external, cain) deposited Sound A resource primarily intended to be heard. Examples include a music playback file format, an audio compact disc, and recorded speech or sounds. Transcription Any written text transcribed from a sound Transcription also available Original Format The type of object, such as painting, sculpture, paper, photo, and additional data Windows Media Audio File (.WMA) Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) 24 minutes 37 seconds Bit Rate/Frequency Rate at which bits are transferred (i.e. 96 kbit/s would be FM quality audio) 192 kbps Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Untitled Story, by Dorothy (story audio) Description An account of the resource Audio recording of interview with Dorothy which was recorded as part of the 5 Decades Project. The project was conducted by Forthspring Inter Community Group. Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Forthspring Inter Community Group Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 2012 Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource Audio; MP3 Format Sound (.mp3) Language A language of the resource English Availability Online Non DC - Availabilty Status (deposited, delayed, external, cain) deposited Catalogue ID Non DC - ID for the Catalogue entry that relates to this entry 2228 5 Decades Forthspring https://k8s-accounts-01.ulster.ac.uk/repo24/files/original/8547177970d71ab3926ad44a28cd95f2.pdf 168ccb573d3073616ea118efac7682a0 PDF Text Text Interviewer: Could you just start off by telling me where you lived during the time of the troubles? Dorothy: Dhu Varren Parade, between the Woodvale and the Springfield Road. I’ve lived there fifty-six years and that would have been... well the trouble didn’t really start then; it was a couple of years later when the children started to get up a bit. Interviewer: When did you first move into the house then? Dorothy: 1957. Interviewer: What were your impressions when you first moved into the house? Dorothy: When I first moved into that house the Springfield Road was lovely; there were plenty of shops in it, a post office in it and it was always a lovely place with the trees and all. It was a lovely place – you could walk anywhere then. You weren’t afraid to walk because at that time Protestants and Catholics lived on the Springfield Road and Woodvale. But when the troubles started, while I was never afraid to walk on it, I would have been more fearful of men walking on it or your children. My children went to Springfield Road School but when they got older they probably wouldn’t have went onto the road when the troubles started. I always found that the people on both sides were always nice and everybody talked to each other. Also I think when they took that co-op away there at the corner and the post office away it separated people because people would have met at the post office and people would have met in the co-op and everybody talked. They went because of the troubles because the post office was getting robbed all the time. One by one the shops just went and that is when everybody started getting isolated. People who were catholic would have went mostly to the Falls Road and the lower Springfield Road whereas people on the other side would have went to the Woodvale side and on to the Shankill Road and I think they need to bring something like that back again. Interviewer: So, you worked in the Blackstaff Mill? Dorothy: Yes. Interviewer: So you had to come over to the – Dorothy: Yes, that’s what I was saying – I was always on the Springfield Road. Interviewer: In what period did you work in the mill? Dorothy: 1975 to about 1989. They closed the mill down. Interviewer: What was your job in the mill? Dorothy: Stitchin’. Oh, I liked it there and I liked the people and when I went down the Springfield Road everybody would have said good morning to me. I never had any problem with it; through the troubles and all. Even with rubble on the ground, maybe there had been riots the night before but I never got any bother. Interviewer: You said yesterday that you worked right through the UWC strike? �Dorothy: That’s right. I worked through the strike because we needed the money. I’m just the type of person that nobody tells me what to do and my husband was the same – he went to work too. We both went to work and I think somebody said something in the strike* - a fellow that was in it. I wasn’t worried about what they said. I was going to my work and a lot of people did – not just me. There was a lot of people who went to the Blackstaff at that time and they had to go through Blackmountain* estate and they all came to work. But nobody ever did anything to the house because of us going. Interviewer: What were relationships like in the workplace itself? Dorothy: Fine. We never had any problem in work; everybody just got on. We all had to work for a living so anybody’s problems was everybody’s problem [...] she was a shop steward at that time. Interviewer: - In the Blackstaff mill? Dorothy: Yes. So if there were any problems we would have brought them to her and she would have went to the boss and got them sorted out. Interviewer: Can you remember any examples of what might have comeDorothy: Well, if we didn’t get enough money and then they put us onto peacetime work... and we used to say to people, “now don’t be going fast when their* in [...] motion men. [Laughter] Go a wee bit slower.” And you find that with some person – I don’t know if it was nerves or not – but they would have rushed* it and then the money would have taken off us – so much* we didn’t like. Interviewer: So you had common cause there really. Dorothy: We always had common causes but nobody ever... in fact I remember one girl and she was a catholic. She was from Suffolk I think it was and she used to say to me, “Dorothy, I’ve swore – I must put a penny in the box.” You know, she respected it, she said, “I know you don’t swear” and she did show respect. I used to laugh – I used to say, “I’m not worrying” but she said she had to put money in the box. There used to be a wee box and every time somebody swore they put money into it for charity. The respect was thereInterviewer: And they respected you [...] protestant and religious so they knew how you lived your life. Dorothy: Yes, and I knew how they lived theirs and I would have said, “It doesn’t matter.” Interviewer: I remember you saying in the larger group – you said that women were coming in from the catholic side and telling you how their houses had been wrecked during the searches and it made you think, “no wonder they turned against the army.” Dorothy: Well, I was going down the road one day, for instance and there were young fellows on the road and they were walking up and the army stopped them and put them all against the wall. The fellows had nothing – they weren’t doing anything. I could see the thing from both sides because my son was taken off the bus one morning on the Shankill because he was black-haired and he had a beard – he grew a beard at this time – and they thought he was Gerry Adams. It was half-six in the morning and he �was going to work and they took him off the bus and they took him to the station so I knew what it was like with my own. So it wasn’t just one-sided. I could understand how these young fellows felt and how they did make them turn against the police, because it wasn’t just the one side because my sons went through it too. If they stopped to talk at a corner they were lifted but it wasn’t a one-sided thing; it was on both sides. So I could understand how the parents felt with their family. Interviewer: You spoke a bit about the whole period of the troubles was a very wearing time for raising children. Dorothy: It was a worrying time for everybody because, as I said, my child was taken off the bus and interrogated. When my children went out in the morning with all the shooting at that particular time and with people just being in the wrong place at the wrong time, you were worried ‘till your children came home and if they went out at night you did not sleep. And that was everybody – you did not sleep until your child came in. Interviewer: When were your children born? Dorothy: Well, William was born in 1959 so when the troubles really took off he would have been in his teens. Interviewer: Yes, so he was ten when... that was probably the worst age of the lot almost. Dorothy: That was the worst time – the teenagers. Because you would have heard on the TV that night that somebody was shot. Especially there were two fellows stick out in my mind– I didn’t know them – but I’m sure you remember them, they were 19 and 20 and they were students – they were Catholics and those two fellows were just walking through. They weren’t doing anybody any harm. And it must have been devastating. It’s not that long ago I think I saw it in the paper – the memory of them – and that’s years and years ago. That must have been very hurtful. Interviewer: Where were they killed? Dorothy: I can’t remember but I remember that they were both shot and they weren’t doing anything. You know, I felt for the parents because when you have children of your own and they’re out you knew what it was like. I remember William was late one night coming in and Billy went over to the police station because we had no phone at that time. He went over and got them to go out and look for him. About ten minutes later he walked in – I could have killed him [Laughter]. But it was worrying – it was a worrying time. Thankfully none of mine were hurt or injured in these troubles; it must have been awful for the people whose sons and daughters were in the wrong place at the wrong time. I have never been sectarian or anything like that because going through it and working with people and I think that’s what’s maybe wrong and maybe it is better that children are at school integrated so they can learn about the other side. Interviewer: In terms of the children growing up, did they continue to live in the area as they grew into adulthood or did they move on elsewhere? �Dorothy: Well my William’s still there but Alison, Samuel and Mark – they all live in Bangor. They wouldn’t come back – they wouldn’t come up to Belfast to live again and my William wouldn’t live in Bangor. Interviewer: When would the three have moved to Bangor? Dorothy: After they all got married they moved to Bangor. Interviewer: So did they find it quieter? Why would they have prepared it to the Woodvale? Dorothy: I don’t know. They just said whenever they got married that’s where they were going and that they would not move back into Belfast. But there’s trouble down there as well. But they are quite happy down there. But for myself, I wouldn’t move down; I’m used to where I am. Interviewer: What do you think of the area now compared with when you first moved into Dhu Varren? Dorothy: Well, our street is quiet but apparently the next street... a fellow who just moved in beside me said, “It’s lovely and quiet in this street but the other street was really rioting* - they’re having parties and all at night time.” So our street is still quiet. I’ve been fortunate that way. Interviewer: You were a member of the congregation here then, all through the troubles. It was a difficult time for the church. Dorothy: It was a difficult time with the fires*. Interviewer: What are your memories of that? Dorothy: Well, to be quite honest I still don’t know who did it. Whether it was one side or the other, I don’t think they ever found out who did it. It didn’t make you hate the other side because, as I say, you didn’t know who did it. To me, there’s good and bad on both sides. Interviewer: When was that about? Dorothy: Oh, that was years ago. Interviewer: I know, it’s hard to locate these things isn’t it? Dorothy: When David Campton was here. He had just come and when it happened, two people next door – Mary and Paddy – they were Catholics and it was they who got the fire brigade out. They were very nice people because Paddy would often say, if I was bringing my children to school – and I didn’t know him at that time – he would say, “Hold on, I’ll give you a lift down to work.” So I always found that people were nice no matter what side they were on. Interviewer: I’m just conscious of the congregation... they increasingly got cut off from where most of the people lived. �Dorothy: A lot of people moved out. A lot of people moved to different areas because they didn’t want to have their families growing up in it and getting caught in it. Interviewer: Have you any particular memories of any events during the troubles orDorothy: I remember I was in Bangor one day and we were down, the children were younger then and a bomb went off in Woolworths and Wellworths* got it that day. My husband, he said, “Right – we’re going.” And we went out right away. So, I don’t think there was anybody hurt that day – I don’t know what happened that day, but it did go off. It brought it to you – how close you can be to it. Thankfully we were alright because Billy, he’s not one for waiting to see what happens. He just said, “Right, we’re getting out of here.” He said, “We’re going home.” Interviewer: I remember you talking about the houses opposite Forthspring here getting built. Dorothy: Those ones there? Interviewer: Yes. And by that time I suppose the road must have been more divided. Dorothy: Well, it was, because protestants were asked if they wanted the houses there but nobody would live there and you could see why. Interviewer: So by that stage, the road was pretty much catholic then. Dorothy: A lot of people moved out, the Protestants moved out and Catholics moved in. Interviewer: Can you remember at any particular point where it suddenly became more difficult to get onto the Springfield Road because when you worked right up ‘till 1989 and when you were still going to work can you remember what the wall was like then or barricades? Dorothy: I’m just one of those people – it never annoyed me. Interviewer: But how did you actually walk to workDorothy: I would have walked down and into Lanark way and walked down that way. Interviewer: Well, Lanark way didn’t open ‘tillDorothy: Well it wasn’t Lanark Way but it was Merkland Street or something like that, but I would have walked down that way. When the children were at school, I would have left them up the Springfield and walked straight down – nobody ever said anything and I never felt intimidated. Interviewer: But when you worked through Merkland Street, was there a barricade at the end orDorothy: I can’t remember to be quite honest with you. Interviewer: There may have been a barrier to stop cars coming back and forth but not pedestrians. �Dorothy: I remember one morning I was coming down and this man was in the car and he was going down and he said to me, “Do you know where the Royal is?” to which I replied, “Aye, I’ll hop in” [...] “You what?” [Laughter] To show him and he said, “You could have been anybody.” He left me to the Blackstaff and I said, “Look, see that set of... the second set” [...] He was going to the Royal but he was all dressed and all. He could’ve been a doctor for all I know and I said, “That’s the Royal” [...] some people were now... a lot of people wouldn’t even go into town when the troubles started because they were really afraid. Everybody’s different and they wouldn’t have gone into town in case a bomb went off. I just took the attitude: you get on with it. Interviewer: So, what did you do with yourself when the Mill closed then? Dorothy: I came out of work, I stopped working for a while and then I was employed stitching the jackets for policemen for a while. Interviewer: And how did that work out? Dorothy: Well, it was back to the 20th century: it was just one big room – I didn’t like it at all. If you wanted to go to the toilet you had to ask for the key like you were in school. It was terrible. Then my daughter was over on Donegal Road working and she said, “Mommy, they looking for people over here.” And I said, “aye, well stuff that I’m going” it was making jumpers and cardigans for Dunnes Stores. So I went over there, next. The forewoman in the place – I forget what you call it; we made the police vests in the place anyway – she said to me, as I met her about two months afterwards, “Do you see when you left, everybody else left” to which I replied, “No wonder; the wages were disgraceful and you weren’t allowed to lift your head.” That girl said to me, “You know, we have never laughed ‘till we came in here” I replied, “Why?” and they would have kept their heads down all day but I did some things. She said to me one day – I had to make the tea and all in front of everybody – she said to me, “Dorothy, it’s you turn to make the tea” and I never thought and I put all the teabags into the urn instead of the kettle and all the girls started laughing. Edith said, “What is she doing now?” [Laughter] Interviewer: Was there a union in there? Dorothy: No, there was no union. Interviewer: Was there a union in the Donegal Road when you got there? Dorothy: No; the only place in which I worked was the Blackstaff. Interviewer: What was the name of the union in the Blackstaff? Dorothy: I don’t know; probably a factory or a garments union. May Blood – she took all to do with that. She was used to doing things like that but she was always bossy anyway, even before she went there. When she was younger she was always bossy because my sister was a friend of hers and still is and I said, “She’s a bossy bitch; I’m not going with her.” But when I was ill, when I passed out in work, it was she who took me up to the doctors – she was really good. My sister said to me, “You don’t like her �because she’s bossy because you’re a bit bossy yourself” which made me think, “That could be true.” [Laughter] Interviewer: And then you became involved in Forthspring when it started. Dorothy: I don’t how many years ago that was. Interviewer: Well it started in 1997, so that’s 16 years ago now. So, what prompted you to do that? Because not everybody in the congregation felt it was a great idea. Dorothy: Well, actually I used to go to the Curragh first and it had meetings on a Wednesday morning with Sister Noreen and it went from there. Interviewer: What got you started in the Curragh? Dorothy: Somebody asked me to go, on a Wednesday morning and I thought, “Ach well, sure I’ll go.” I wasn’t working now and I said I’d go round and it just went from there. Noreen was very nice. It snowballed just from that. Interviewer: Have you always enjoyed that? Dorothy: Yes. They would have gone out to places for the day and I’m an outdoor person, I love being outdoors. Then we went to Scotland and we got in touch with Dublin and we would have gone down to Dublin and they would have come up to visit us. It just snowballed from there. Interviewer: Now, for most of us, we hope that the bulk of the troubles are overDorothy: I would not actually say that. Interviewer: You still have concerns? Dorothy: Well, especially in July and August for the parades and the flags and all that. I still think you’re going to have trouble during those months. Interviewer: Do you personally feel uneasy during that time. Dorothy: It doesn’t bother me because I’ve never let myself or my family get involved with things like that because they went up to the Springfield School and I’ve always taught them that everybody’s the same. My son, he works downtown and there’s a fellow who is Egyptian and he said to me, “Flippin’ foreigners. You see these Egyptians and all” you see, he was very arrogant there for a while and I said, “William: just take him as he is.” So he comes in the other day and says, “You know, mummy, he brought me a pen back – he was over in Egypt visiting his family and he brought me a pen and a notebook back and he also brought me cigarettes.” I replied to him, “Didn’t I tell you that there was good in everybody; but you couldn’t see it because you just had this thing against foreigners taking over jobs.” I’ve never taught my children to be sectarian or racist or anything like that. Interviewer: And what would your hopes for the future be, for this place and for your children? �Dorothy: I just hope and pray that things will never go back to the time when people have to lose their children through sectarian violence but saying that, they fight amongst each other anyway as a fellow my grandson knows was on the Shankill and he happened to say something and all these fellows beat him up – he was 28 – and he ended up in hospital there. If they’re in clubs on their own side even and they’ve had too much to drink and they come out with something wrong, they’re getting beat up – and that was only about two weeks ago and I think he had to get stitches in his eye and stitches in his head. As people say, that’s doing it to your own. � Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource 5 Decades Project (collection) Description An account of the resource "Forthspring has worked since 1997 to build relationships between neighbouring Protestant and Catholic communities in West Belfast. The 5 Decades Project grew out of a desire to examine these communities' very different experience of living through the 'Troubles', with the goal of developing a shared, but not agreed, account of the conflict and its impact. Experiences and memories were gathered through storytelling in small groups from the same community background, roughly structured around the 5 decades beginning with the 1960s. There were also opportunities to share and hear stories from other communities. Over 150 people have taken part." Forthspring 5 Decades Project. (2014). 'Talking About The Troubles'. (Rear cover) Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Forthspring Inter Community Group Stories Collected Non DC - Number of stories recorded as part of the project. 20+ interviews (leading to 80 stories in the published book) Stories Deposited Non DC - Number of stories deposited with Accounts of the Conflict. 6 Collection Permission Form Non DC - Collection permission form signed and returned. Yes (signed 12 November 2014) Delayed Access Non DC - Yes/No on request for delayed access. No Availability Online Non DC - Availabilty Status (deposited, delayed, external, cain) deposited Publication A book, article, monograph etc. Author Author of the publication Dorothy Date Type Publication, Submission, Completion date etc. 2012 Publication Title Full title of publication, as it appears on item. Transcript of audio interview. Publication Status Published, in Press, Unpublished, etc. Unpublished Number of Pages 8 Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Untitled Story, by Dorothy (story transcript) Description An account of the resource Transcript (PDF) of the audio recording of interview with Dorothy which was recorded as part of the 5 Decades Project. The project was conducted by Forthspring Inter Community Group. Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Forthspring Inter Community Group Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 2012 Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource PDF version of transcript Language A language of the resource English Availability Online Non DC - Availabilty Status (deposited, delayed, external, cain) deposited Catalogue ID Non DC - ID for the Catalogue entry that relates to this entry 2228 5 Decades Forthspring