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                  <text>�Contents
Page

Introduction

111

Preface

V

Mixed Emotions- Foreword

Vll

Say all you have to say

1

We walked the walk

8

Family is the most important thing

15

Go for it and be happy

22

We don't need to be labelled

29

You two against the rest

36

A little tolerance goes a long way

43

xi

�Contents
Page

Our love encourages respect

50

Not enough Christianity

57

Love conquers everything

64

A short history of mixed marriage in Ireland

71

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�We don't need to be labelled

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�We don't need to be labelled
David and Nuala are in their early forties. They have
been married for nearly 20 years and have four
children. David is an electronic engineer while N uala
is a classroom assistant in a local primary school.
They have known each other nearly all their adult
lives.

D

avid and Nuala live in a quiet cul-de-sac on the
outskirts of Carryduff, a small town to the south
of Belfast. It is an area where many mixed married
couples have chosen to live. "It 's a good place to bring
up children", says David. "A place where people get
along and get on with their lives". "Yes", says Nuala,
"we're lucky to have been able to make our home here,
away from Belfast with all of its traditional problems, in
a town where barriers have been broken down and good
relationships forged. "
The suburbs of County Down are a world away from the
terraces of North Belfast where Nuala was born and
brought up. "I grew up on the city's New Lodge Road,
which was a really Catholic district in one of the worst
areas of sectarian conflict in the country. I went to the
local primary school and can honestly say that I would
not have met or even thought about Protestants until,
thanks to the hard work of my mother and father, we were
able to move to a much bigger house on the Oldpark
Road when I was eleven. That was a dramatic change, as
there was only one other Catholic family on that part of

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�the road, although it really made no difference to me or
my four brothers and sister. We hadn't been brought up
to be 'bitter' as they say in Belfast. Both my mother and
late father were good decent people who had friends from
both communities and encouraged us to do the same."
Nuala passed her Eleven Plus exam and for the next
seven years travelled across Belfast to St Dominic 's
Grammar School on the city's Falls Road. "There were
other good schools much closer to home", she says, "one
just 10 minutes walk down the road, but those were the
days when Catholics went to only Catholic schools, so I
and many like me had to grin and bear it." St Dominic's
was all girl and all Catholic, so it wasn't until Nuala, aged
16, got a part-time job in Woolworths that she got the
chance to mix with people of other denominations. "I
quickly made friends, regardless of religion, and learned
what a social life was all about."
Two years later, Nuala went to Queen's University to
study French and Business and found herself sharing a
house with girls of all denominations and none. "Nobody
cared what religion anyone was", she says, "and that's
the way it should be." Nuala's first year at Queen's was
also significant for the fact that at the end of it, she met
David.
David was born and raised Church of Ireland on the
predominantly Protestant Belvoir Park estate in South
Belfast. "There were two Catholic families in the estate,"
says David, "but only two . That's just the way it was. I
didn't think about it at all. I hadn't been brought up to
have prejudices against anyone because of his or her
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�religion, although I suppose I had heard all the usual
derogatory remarks about Catholics or 'Taigs' as they
were called, by the time I went to grammar school. I was
lucky in that my parents were not bigoted. Both had
Catholic friends. My mum's best friend, Rosemary, was
a Catholic who became her bridesmaid, while my dad
was a committed trade unionist who looked forward to a
time when Protestant and Catholics workers could put
socialist politics before bigotry."
"Very appropriate then that I should attend what was
described as Belfast's working class grammar school,
Annadale. It was mostly Protestant - all boys - but it did
give me a good education."
David went on to Queen's University to study Electronic
Engineering and, after seven years and being offered a
lectureship there, gained his doctorate.
David had met Nuala on a campsite in Spain when he was
a shy sixth former from Annadale and she was a
'sophisticated' undergraduate at Queen's.
"I was 19 at the time", says Nuala. "so, I suppose he was
my toy boy. All I knew was that we hit it off right away
hundreds of miles from Belfast and light years from the
kind of sectarianism that was the norm then."
David remembers, "We travelled home on the same
coach - yes, a coach from Spain to Northern Ireland and I was disappointed that Nuala had already arranged
to stop off in London." His disappointment eased when
he rang Nuala's home a couple of weeks later and they
started going out together.
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�There were problems connected with that, though
geographical rather than religious. "We lived at the two
extremes of Belfast", says David, "I mean North and
South and without a car between us, we relied on public
transport. Obviously, our parents worried about our safety
in travelling across the city in such dangerous times, but
we persevered and it was well worth it."
"I think we knew pretty quickly that we wanted to be
together", says Nuala. "We talked about what we
wanted, decided what was best for us and got on with it.
Religion was never a dominant topic of conversation",
says David, "we never shied away from it, but we were
always positive and our families were tremendously
supportive."
David and Nuala were married in 1992 at her local
Catholic church, weeks after David graduated, in an
inclusive service that saw David's rector, fully robed for
the occasion, give the sermon. "It was a great day", says
Nuala, "and one that augured well for the years ahead.
Of course, we've been lucky, but we've also had to work
at it - like all couples in all marriages - and the fact that
our families are very similar was a bonus."
Today, Nuala and David have two boys and two girls.
"We feel that integrated education is the single most
important thing in helping to bring about a shared future
in this country", says David. "Our children, although
baptised Catholic, attend either state or integrated schools
and are all the better for it. I'm not sure how they would
describe themselves if they ever thought about it", says
Nuala, "baptised Catholic and their activities include
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�Baptist Girls' Brigade, Church of Ireland youth club,
Church of Ireland scouts and a Presbyterian summer
scheme. As good a mix as you could wish for."
"Being in a mixed marriage has certainly influenced how
we feel about organised religion", says David. "We don't
have a need to have either ourselves or our children
labelled as one thing or the other. We are bits of all and
we want our kids to dip into everything and just be
happy."
"The rituals and discipline of organised religion
dominated a lot of my early life, but, even with the best
of intentions, this was not what we wanted for our boys
and girls."
"I would advise any young couple thinking about making
a mixed marriage to have the courage of their
convictions, to stay true to themselves and to follow their
instincts", says David, "and to cultivate their good, black,
Northern sense ofhumour."
"Most of our friends, half of whom are in mixed
marriages, enjoy the craic and banter of slagging each
other off about religion, about 'Prods and Taigs' and all
the rest of it. That's the way it should and can be in a
'normal' society. It's fun and its healthy and, better still,
it's harmless. We look forward to the day when it's like
that right across the country."

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�David &amp; Nuala

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