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                  <text>�Contents
Page

Introduction

111

Preface

V

Mixed Emotions- Foreword

Vll

Say all you have to say

1

We walked the walk

8

Family is the most important thing

15

Go for it and be happy

22

We don't need to be labelled

29

You two against the rest

36

A little tolerance goes a long way

43

xi

�Contents
Page

Our love encourages respect

50

Not enough Christianity

57

Love conquers everything

64

A short history of mixed marriage in Ireland

71

x ii

�A little tolerance
goes a long way

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�A little tolerance goes a long way
Roley and Jo live on the outskirts of the quiet village
of Ederney in the beautiful Fermanagh countryside.
"Close enough to walk to the shops and far enough
away from the neighbours not to hear me guldering
at the kids", according to Jo. Roley is a civil servant,
Jo works in a local school. They have been married
for more than 25 years and have four children.

"G

etting into a mixed marriage has proved an
education for both of us", says Roley.
"Previously, we knew nothing of each other's church and
very little of each other's culture. We have learned a lot
and, perhaps more importantly, found that love, when it
has to, can really break down barriers and overcome all
opposition." "We learned to share and to be tolerant",
says Jo, "and that a little bit of Christianity goes a long
way. "
Jo, don 't call her Josephine, was born and bred in the
predominantly Roman Catholic village of Ederney. She
was the baby of the family. "I didn't have Protestant
friends when I was growing up", she says. " It wasn't a
conscious decision, there just weren't any around. As a
result, I suppose that I had no reason to think about
religious differences. They didn't exist for me as a child
in that environment."
That changed when, after school, Jo took a job at
Desmond's clothing factory in the nearby town of
Irvinestown. " It was all new to me, like it is for any
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�teenager starting work, but, for the first time, I found
myself in a place that was truly mixed. And I loved it. I
made friends from both ' sides' , we went to mixed dances
and had boyfriends of both religions just like normal
people. Changed times! My best friend throughout the
best part of my life has been Allison, a Protestant."
Jo continued to live in the village and cared for her father
in the family home.
Roley was born a couple miles from where he now lives,
in the Lower Lough Erne village of Kesh, which was
mainly Protestant. "I was Church of Ireland", he says,
"and lived with my mother and grandmother. My grannie
was like a mother to me as my own mother had to go out
to work to support us. It was a happy childhood in a
home that had an open door for everyone, regardless of
religion. In fact, religion was something that was
practised on a Sunday and never mentioned again during
the week. I had friends of both persuasions, went to 'tech'
with them as well and had a first hand knowledge of
mixed marriage through my aunt who was married to a
Catholic. I never saw a problem or heard a word of
trouble. "
Roley joined the Northern Ireland Civil Service in 1972
and swapped the rural idyll of Fermanagh for a Belfast
steeped in sectarian conflict. "I shared digs on the Lower
Newtownards Road in the city near a notorious interface
and got my first taste of bigotry. It stank."
Roley spent three years on that CS posting, a stint that
included the infamous Workers ' Strike of 1974. "Those
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�were hairy days where we were living in a tight workingclass Protestant area and we had to walk up and down the
disused County Down railway line, to and from
Stormont, to avoid road blocks that would have prevented
us from going to work. For me, it was a culture shock. I
just wasn't used to living on that sort offrontline."
Roley returned to Enniskillen in 1975 to find that the
impact of the ' Troubles ' had spread. "There was
increased division back home", he says, "I think mainly
down to the IRA campaign of targeting members of the
UDR, which lead to suspicion and mistrust."
Roley also worked in the Department of Social Security
on Belfast's Falls Road for a period during the 1980s. "It
was a difficult time", he says. "The ordinary people were
the best in the world, just as I had found in East Belfast,
but paramilitaries ruled the roost and violence was
commonplace." A man was shot dead in Roley's
workplace and because he was a trained counsellor, he
was able to lend support to traumatised staff. "It was truly
terrible in the real sense of the word and I will not forget
the fear, disgust and horror that I and my colleagues,
many of them young girls, were forced to experience."
Roley's return to work in Fermanagh brought bad news
from his local GP. By now his weight had crept up to 42
stone and the doctor 's advice to the then 29 year old was
'don't look forward to your 31st birthday - you won't be
here ' . That stark warning and the support of his family,
particularly his grandmother, led to a dramatic change in
lifestyle that saw him lose 29 stone, but he is quick to
credit Jo 's contribution to his survival.
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�"I met Jo about a fortnight after my grandmother passed
away", he says, "and already I was heading back into the
old ways of eating and drinking. I was on a slippery slope
until Jo and I got together and I found that I now had a
very special person in my life."
"I can honestly say that religion didn't come into it when
Roley and I started going out together" says Jo. "We liked
each other and took it for granted I suppose. Roley's
family were fine. I was in his mother's house many times
before we got engaged and was welcomed warmly and
genuinely, while my father, after he had been reassured
that I was not going to leave him on his own, became like
a father to Roley. We were lucky in that respect." Roley
interrupts, " It was a privilege to help look after Johnny,
Jo 's dad, who lived with us after we got married. He was
a decent man and the only father I had ever known."
Others, outside the family, didn't approve of the couple's
decision to marry. "Some friends, boys that I'd known
for years, boys that I would have shed blood for, made it
clear what they thought of a ' fenian lover'. I got Mass
cards and sympathy cards through the post and a lot of
silence as I was shunned by former mates. It was sad
certainly, but I'll take love over ignorance any day and,
anyway, most of the same boys have mellowed with
time." Surprisingly, even one local Church of Ireland
clergyman was less than helpful when Roley went for his
Baptism lines. "Ach, he was obstreperous and ignorant
and all because I was getting married. Stupid man."
The couple were married in the local Roman Catholic
church, St Joseph 's. " A beautiful place", says Roley,
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�"and my own minister stole the show at the reception
with the best wedding speech I've ever heard. I'm glad I
have it on video."
Jo and Roley went to both churches in the first ten years
after they married. They had four children, fostered
nearly two dozen more and it was Roley 's wish to be
totally involved in the lives of his children, including
their communion, that led him to convert to Catholicism
about 15 years ago.
"I always said I would like to take communion with my
youngsters and I am very proud of the fact that I
converted. I retained my great faith in Jesus Christ, I still
read the bible everyday and I have thrown myself into
my local church." Roley has also become the first lay
person to chair the Board of Governors at his local
Roman Catholic primary school, while he and Jo still
attend the Church oflreland for festivals like the Harvest
Festival.
"We celebrated 25 years of marriage this year", says
Roley, "so we must be doing something right. We have a
great family and have done our best to teach our children,
who have benefitted from secondary integrated
education, to take people as they find them and to respect
other people's points of view. In the end, it is all about
respect."
"Yes", says Jo, "all obstacles can be overcome by love,
commitment and actually caring about the other person
as much as, if not more than yourself. A little tolerance
goes a long way. "
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�"We have been very lucky in our lives", says Roley, "and
we do our best to try to put something back. I hope that
this book will make people see, particularly young
people, that love doesn't have a denomination ."

Roley &amp; Jo

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